Does anyone remember what happened to the few people who lived behind the clyde dam, when they flooded it? They all did very nicely out of it, they got huge compensation for moving..

How about just selling up to RES, if you are going to be affected that badly.

You believe that RES would be interested in land that is unsuitable for turbines?

If buying up propertys surrounding the windfarm, meant that they could progress with the project, then yes, i belive that they would be interested in buying. My pick is that that would buy it, hold onto it, build the ajoining windfarm, then sell the propertys after the fact..

This has been a common corporate tactic.

( possibly at a profit )

Wouldn't it be a terrible shame though, if Pauatahanui was a wind farm with lots of empty properties owned by the wind farm developer? They would have destroyed the community spirit. I think it unlikely, so I can sleep sound tonight.

When you talk of Clyde etc that was the approach in the good old days when the government took some responsibility and compensated people for projects that were considered in the national interest. What is happening here is hardly democracy at work - one or two, maybe three, individuals stand to gain while the rest of us lose. We will not even get any benefit from cheaper power and I doubt very much that we will benefit as ratepayers from GWRC's share of the income.

Ahh Democracy..

Perhaps the flipside is true also.. One or two, maybe three people will be disadvantaged, and the majority will benefit.

I will lose out and I'm not close to them. There are possibly 100 homes closer than me. Not sure where 1, 2 or 3 people may lose. I think we all will. Hey, even Whitby people will lose. Then there are the visitors, the tourists, the... you get the picture.

What exactly will you loose?

I understood you had done some research into this? If so, you know the list, or maybe you work for RES. The forum covers most of the issues. Not a complete list, I'm sure.

Health, wealth and happiness. I've worked hard for them and I'm not prepared for them to be taken away without a fight.

"What exactly will you loose"

I know what i stand to loose ( or gain ). I was asking you want you stand to loose.

>I understood you had done some research into this? If so, you know the list, or maybe you work for >RES. The forum covers most of the issues. Not a complete list, I'm sure.


1. I do not work for RES, have an interest in them, or do any business with them. I do not have any land for sale that they would be interested in ( unless they want to build in a valley ).

2. I have done considerable research into the puketiro proposal, wind generation, Renewable energy in general, the NZ Government strategy on energy. I've dug up multiple case studys on windfarms around the world.


3. My beef about the project is actually not about noise, visual impacts or the likes. Personally i think that they can all be mitigated against. My issue is that core infrastructure that is of national importance ( such as electricty generation ) should not be owned and operated by an overseas interest.

On point 3 I am in total agreement with you. RES are a British firm and all the money will go overseas. Worse still, they bring their own people in (or so I've gathered) and any carbon credits the government generate will be sold, overseas. We're not being very green is we allow others to be lazy. Come on NZ, can't we design, build and run renewable energy projects?

Are there any NZ made turbines or other NZ made renewables?

Yes, there are several....

Wonder why we're not using locally made turbines? Keeping the money here, boosting our economy. The ones you know of, are they suitable? I know there are some personal, small, 4 meter turbines for sale, but 3MW 130 meter high etc? Not aware of any.

www.windflow.co.nz

Manfacturers of some of the systems that are up the back of palmy north.. Nice looking things they are too.. Espically since they are in someone elses back yard.. Anywhere but mine is fine.. And I dont' care if we flood another south island river, cause its not in my backyard.

www.windflow.co.nz

Manfacturers of some of the systems that are up the back of palmy north.. Nice looking things they are too.. Espically since they are in someone elses back yard.. Anywhere but mine is fine..

When a wind factory is built the owners of property with the generators on them must be expected to bear the cost of upheaval in the local community. It is not only the developer who should be liable for costs of mitigation. Local land owners stand to gain some income from having them situated on their property.

And I hear the payouts are very nice too. That's half the battle. If someone offers you enough to retire abroad on a huge annual income, many people could be encouraged to allow them to be developed. There should be a cap on what people can earn from them so that they consider the impact on the community, not their own greedy pockets.